Question: Is the diversity issue in Hollywood making movies look the same and compromising creative freedom?

 

 

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This article is spoiler-free for the films that are discussed. Diversity in movies is important and groundbreaking but I don’t like when it’s calculated and politically motivated. Because not every new movie is supposed to be inclusive and include minorities, and creativity is compromised by pandering to a set of standards. The 1970s is often regarded as one of the greatest decades for American cinema and the freedom those filmmakers were given led to amazing work that still holds up today. Of course, there will be those who argue I’m looking at the past uncritically as the 70s also had political movements such as feminists which influenced how films were made and received. Just look at The Spy Who Loved Me (1977) where Bond teams up with a female Russian agent. The character of Anya Amasova (Barbara Bach above) not only addresses the misogyny in the series, the presence of the character also challenges the anti-Soviet tendencies in the Bond universe. Up to a point at least, as many feel the depiction of Amasova is dated by today’s feminist standards. 

 

 

 

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I understand the Tarantino backlash and he could have given Margot Robbie a few more lines in Once Upon a Time in Hollywood (2019), and treated Uma Thurman better on the set of Kill Bill, but it’s ultimately his choice how to write his characters, do we really want Tarantino to change the script to please diversity requirements? That’s not progressive that’s restrictive. I’ve nothing against other races or female driven stories, yet when writer/director Rian Johnson decided to have 10% Asian, 10% black, 50 % females, or whatever the percentages actually are, represented in The Last Jedi (2017), it feels forced and disingenuous, the inclusiveness a distraction to the story. The black storm trooper idea I was fine with albeit I don’t want to watch movies where every race, gender, or miniority has to have a “moment to shine”. This was even more noticeable in Rogue One: A Star Wars Story (2016). Worried that the studio might offend someone is not what storytelling is about. Storytelling is about taking chances, interesting characters, and letting the story evolve naturally. You can say something new with a diverse cast, yet doesn’t the story lose a sense of edginess and individuality if you have to please others? I don’t want Star Wars to be a diversity ad. I want Star Wars to be Star Wars.

 

 

 

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On one hand, diversity in casting is progress and LBGT in It Chapter 2 (2019) I agree with Stephen King is a good idea and was already implied or present in his novel. On the other hand, when the choice of cast is financially motivated to attract worldwide audiences, that’s abusing the progress. Because not every story needs racially diverse, politically correct casts.
You can make movies with a white cast without being a racist. Sometimes a story would be historically inaccurate if you diversified, such as WW2 war film Dunkirk (2017) which came under fire.
Diversity for the sake of diversity doesn’t work. Story comes first. If blockbusters and Oscar contenders have to follow these guidelines then movies all start looking alike. Diversity is not the same as originality as this funny YouTube video shows

 

 

 

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Representation matters, but to me only when it’s right for the story. Great films don’t follow the rules. If social justice warriors police our filmmakers and yell at them every time they do something daring or non-PC, then Hollywood is heading towards dystopian censorship.

 

 

 

 

 

What do you think? As always, comments are welcome

 

48 thoughts on “Question: Is the diversity issue in Hollywood making movies look the same and compromising creative freedom?

  1. When it’s shoehorned in it’s looks fake and takes all credibility out of something that should happen organically and natural. The Avengers Endgame all girl battle bit was ridiculously played. It was forced and hysterical. Worse, it came off incredibly disingenuous.

    The new Star Wars are terribly forced on the subject, especially The Last Jedi like you say. But I personally didn’t get that feeling at all on Rogue One. Everyone IMHO felt natural though it helps that the story line is much better realised. It hadn’t even crossed my mind in that film tbh. Helps that I loved that movie. Solo on the other hand is a whole other can of worms! Jeez L3-37!!!!! how on Earth can you get a character worse than Jar Jar Binks! Surely it wasn’t possible?

    Michelle Yeoh’s Wai Lin will always be my Bond girl. She’s as tough as the men, super smart and of course very easy on the eye. Her part wasn’t forced, she was just fookin awesome. Why can’t they do that with out all the disingenuous BS!

    Great article Chris. One that needs a few beers down the pub to chat about.

    PS Barbara Bach was amazing too.

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    1. @Wolfman: Glad you enjoyed the article!

      Rogue One seemed guilty of playing the diversity card to me, I remember their race/appearance though the characterization was lacking. The last act of the movie was suspenseful and kind of saved it. I still haven’t seen Solo.

      Michelle Yeoh is a tough cookie 🙂 I like Barbara Bach’s turn, she’s not the greatest actress in the world, but a worthy addition to the canon, and paved the way for Yeoh!

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      1. It is funny when you think about the cast of Rogue One. Yes they do come out like they getting on Noah’s Ark. Like I said before though I was invested in the story that I really didn’t notice and because of that it didn’t at all feel “forced” to me on that film. (of course the film has lots of other issues) Though I’m so obsessed with A New Hope that having the chance of a new story connected directly with it was so wonderful for me. And I lost my shit when the end connected up with the beginning. Yep there were tears. A near on 40 year loop of me sat in the cinema and seeing it connect. I didn’t know that was coming and I love them so much for doing that. 🙂

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      1. Yeah I know. Well put together trailer though I thought. But yeah it could easy be a cheese-fest.
        Was a surprise to see Carl Weathers pop up not too sure what to think about Herzog being in it. I’m quietly excited and optimistic. A very different feeling that I have for episode 9!!!?!?

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    2. @Wolfman: Fingers crossed J.J. Abrams can get the thing back on track and hopefully not another ’death star’ as there are plenty of other stories to tell in E9. I guess will be very retro and safe after the backlash of Last Jedi. The Mandalorian probably has a better shot at doing something edgier as it’s a fresh start but I think still will play it safe to some degree so as not to alienate the fans.

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  2. Representation is important, but what I really want to see in Hollywood is originality and quality stories. I want to see original characters from different backgrounds and it’s absolutely possible. I also think people need to look past labels and stuff. There’s more to us than our ethnicity, sexuality, nationality, religion, etc.

    Growing up, there was (and still isn’t) a Disney Princess of my ethnic background, but I still loved watching the movies and I could still relate to the characters like Ariel wanting to go somewhere else or Mulan wanting to defy gender stereotypes and expectations.

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    1. @angiemoonthemod: You’re so right that there’s more to us than our ethnicity, sexuality, nationality, religion, etc. Unfortunately Hollywood far too often plays it safe and doesn’t take risks with unconventional characters. It’s quite the challenge to even find original films these days which is sad. Today’s animated films are sometimes quite original, I loved Inside Out and Despicable Me. And the short animated film World of Tomorrow (2015) was amazing.

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    2. @angiemoonthemod: I haven’t yet watched Moana and Coco, they sound like films that are both pushing the envelope in terms of diversity in animation and with good stories.

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  3. I’m having trouble understanding how Star Wars in particular is forcing any type of diversity issue. We don’t all look the same, and neither should the characters in the films we watch. I didn’t see those films as giving certain people a time to shine based on how they looked. Especially in TLJ, which is arguably about failure and learning from your mistakes. I don’t consider being faced with the real world and multiple races/genders/etc as it being forced on me.

    The only time diversity ever bothers me is when it’s used as a gimmick. Like an all female Ghostbusters or Ocean’s 8. Those might be fine movies, but I’m not going to rush out to see them just because it’s an old idea remade with women. I’d rather see something original. But I also don’t think those films existing ruin the original versions either.

    Or when the writing doesn’t back it up, ala Arya killing the Night King in Game of Thrones because it “subverts expectations”

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    1. @Brittani: TLJ is divisive. My rating was 3/5 and I found it tonally uneven and juggling too many side plots. The way different cultures and genders are represented is admirable, the movie screams diversity a bit too much for me though and became a distraction. The scene where Leia flies in space like superman was ridiculous. Fair enough she has force powers like the men, but was unrealistic in a film I was taking seriously. I guess I just felt TLJ was trying too hard to appeal to different demographics, I never had that feeling when I watched the original trilogy. But I’m fine with others appreciating the new Star Wars approach and I’ll be watching E9. I’m not a hater, just a sceptic. I prefer Force Awakens because it’s akin to the old Star Wars. I’ve read TLJ is a feminist Star Wars movie which is critical of male attitudes and probably that is the perspective I need on rewatch. Hard to criticise TLJ without looking sexist!

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      1. That Leia scene was definitely bad, I wasn’t thinking of that in the way of she gets the Force like the men, just that they really should’ve talked more about Leia using the force before they showed that scene. This also reminds me I need to read that book about her.

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    2. @Brittani: I haven’t read anything by Carrie Fisher, there are a few to choose from. The Princess Diarist is a behind the scenes look at Star Wars, Wishful Drinking covers her addictions, relationships and mental health. Postcards from the Edge is a semi-autobiographical story about Carrie after coming out of a stint in rehab.(the latter is also a movie)

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  4. I have no problems with representation. While I might not agree with you on some of the casting TLJ, I will agree with you on forced inclusivity and representation. People are getting really upset over nothing. I don’t mind trying to reach everyone but if it all of these things just to make everyone feel inclusive for the wrong reasons, then that person is just being an asshole.

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    1. @ninvoid99: I guess I just have to get use to the diversified casts, both forced and unforced.
      To return to my question in the header, would be sad if screenwriters unique voices are muddied due to pressure of certain guidelines. Diversity is positive but you can’t tick those boxes for every story. If you try and mold every story to fit PC culture, then movies all start looking the same. Baiting us with token minority characters isn’t going to satisfy those who yearn for authentic representation. You’ve got to pick the best actor or director for the job.

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      1. Exactly. Even though I haven’t written a script in nearly a decade, I will not compromise my ideas for the sake of what is acceptable right now. Plus, I’d be really uncomfortable having to try and write a character and not have them devoid into typical stereotypes like…. “sheeet” or “puta madre”.

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  5. Good storytelling and diversity aren’t mutually exclusive, as your post seems to imply. We can most certainly have both. We can have originality, too. I agree that diversity comes off forced in some instances. I don’t agree with some of the instances you picked. In particular, the Star Wars universe is a massive one in which characters hop from planet to planet encountering all sorts of beings. Diversity is built in so I can’t see how putting forth humans of various races and genders is detrimental to the series. The issues that the Disney SW flicks have are almost all related to story-telling, not who is playing the roles.

    When people say diversity is forced is to ignore a couple different things about Hollywood. One, there doing because they’ve realized that there’s plenty of money in going that route. The other is the fact that the lack of diversity was also forced for a century. And that was also tied to money. The Hollywood machine just could not believe that people wanted to see movies where someone other than a white person was the hero. Therefore, representation for anyone who isn’t white was severely lacking, and in some cases, non-existent. Achieving ratios like the ones Rian Johnson proposed would put SW, and the rest of Hollywood, at least somewhat in line with society. So I don’t see that as a bad thing.

    I feel I need to speak a bit more about those numbers, though. I had never heard of Johnson’s plan before reading this post. I suspect most folks who use movies as disposable entertainment aren’t aware of them, either. For those that are, it feels like a case just knowing too much. I get why Johnson and/or Disney would make it public. They want to seem progressive. However, this is something that should’ve stayed in-house. Exposing it makes sure that anyone who hears about it has the issue on their mind when viewing their movies. This just makes it too easy to use diversity as the scapegoat for whatever ails a particular production.

    Thanks for writing a thought provoking article.

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  6. @Wendell: I don’t expect everyone to agree with me which is why I phrased the post as a question.
    You make a good point that the lack of diversity was also forced for a century. I’m not knocking the progress, I’m knocking when diversity issues start overshadowing Star Wars itself and becoming a distraction during the movie watching, or even hijacking the story itself and compromising artistic freedom. Not all viewers will have this experience, and many will be happy with the inclusions. I can’t explain why but when I watched Empire Strikes Back and Lando or Leia appeared there was not the same distraction that she was female or he was black, it felt more natural whereas the diversity in Last Jedi and Rogue One felt forced and politically correct. Last Jedi had a dodgy story so that is partly to blame for my so-so rating of the movie. I think as representation becomes more commonplace in movies it will gradually be less of a distraction. The combination of good storytelling, originality and diversity is exactly what we need. But doesn’t work for me when Rogue One adds a bunch of diverse characters without creating much of a back story for them. Because then it becomes a case of diversity for the sake of diversity at the expense of memorable characters. Just my opinion. Thanks for chiming in.

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    1. I agree with both of you actually. That sometimes diversity can be distraction from the story itself and completely silly and out of place. At other times diversity writes into existence people who were formerly invisible and lacking in stories.

      Two really silly examples I think are as follows:

      In a recent historical film about Mary Queen of Scots she had African and Asian handmaidens in her royal court in the 15th century. Now did she really? Or was that just a modern quirk that doesn’t reflect historical accuracy?
      https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2328900/

      Another one which was silly and related to age was Catherine the Great, the Russian Queen. Helen Mirren (age 73) plays the queen, in the show she is aged of 35 and is having affairs with young men. As a result, the show is ridiculous in every way

      https://www.imdb.com/title/tt7243884/

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      1. @Content Catnip: Thanks for joining in. Yeah, the solution is sort of a double edged sword. Everyone can agree minority groups should have a chance to tell their stories but the way it’s handled is not always perfect when the minorities are forced into a Hollywood mould. Underwritten token minority characters is where diversity becomes a problem.

        I haven’t watched those titles but you are right age or historical aspects can look forced or silly. I was recently rewatching Moonrise Kingdom and the parents are old enough to be grandparents, causing an unwanted distraction. Often big stars get parts even when they are not right for the role!

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      2. Yes, you have articulated what I was wanting to say perfectly. About how tokenism can actually backfire and make a film feel disingenuous or staged. I haven’t seen Moonrise Kingdom I might have to check that one out.

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  7. I don’t really understand what It 2 is doing here, Hader is not homosexual. And King did imply this in the novel so Muschietti, Hader and King all just added to it. Anyways, my problem with Tarantino isn’t with how many lines his female characters has but that for the last decade he very clearly featured so much misogyny and disturbing things targeted at women, more often than not, for the sake of comedy. He is free to do that but the fact he still has defenders, so many of them is gross to me and “separate art from the artist” is a disgusting statement for anyone to make. It’s like saying I don’t care about people suffering in real life, just my enjoyment. The forced gender/racial requirements are hilarious though. The best person for the job should get a job and talent is all that should matter.

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    1. @Sati: Thanks for your thoughts. There’s a fan theory (edit: for the book) Richie is a closeted bisexual (I didn’t even notice when I watched). Then we have the standalone hate crime sequence which is more on-the-nose and apparently in the novel.
      King was asked whether he alluded to Richie’s unrequited crush on Eddie intentionally, and he said “No, I never did,”, ( https://www.indiewire.com/2019/09/stephen-king-it-chapter-two-gay-character-genius-1202172451/ ) so seems to be a fan and filmmaker interpretation and not the author’s intention. But, I didn’t read IT, so can’t say either way. King was ahead of the curve in IT novel in terms of representation in the group, intentionally and probably unintentionally!
      My point including IT Chapter 2 was to give an example of a big cast which felt natural and diversity was NOT a distraction. But I’m sure there are others who felt the opposite.

      Tarantino doesn’t appear to care about the suffering of his chararcters and does it for comedy. It is disturbing when you look at it that way. I really hope real life maniacs don’t copy the acts such as the ear scene in R Dogs yet Tarantino shouldn’t be blamed for everything as he often stole from another movie and didn’t invent violence on screen, though he reaches a bigger audience than Corbucci who did the ear scene before him. But as you say he is free to write what he wants. If anyone dislikes him, they are free to stop watching.

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      1. This isn’t fan theory. I wrote about it my review. Hader talked about in dozen interviews if not more. That’s what is happening – Richie is in love with Eddie There’s plenty of people who interpreted the novel this way that’s why Muschietti had the idea to make it clear in the first place.

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  8. @sati: Yes I know, the bisexuality is deliberately in the movie which I heard in this interview(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hwl9GJ9hY_Y ) Whereas for the novel it’s a popular long-held fan interpretation. I like the creative freedom Muschietti took and listened to the interpretation. Again, I haven’t read the book and didn’t notice the hints to the Richie Eddie thing in the movie so I’m not able to talk in detail.

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  9. It is very refreshing to read a take on this whole inclusion thing that sounds sane and unbiased either way. I pretty much agree with everything you said, though I think there is more to it. But the last sentence was great:

    “If social justice warriors police our filmmakers and yell at them every time they do something daring or non-PC, then Hollywood is heading towards dystopian censorship.”

    This is exactly what I have been worried about, both my father and I have been bitching about political correctness, not just in Hollywood but in general, for nearly a decade, and it just continues to get worse. It has already removed a ton of apparently ‘offensive’ words out of general society.

    If that isn’t censorship, I don’t know what is.

    Of course diversity in films should be encouraged, like in the films you alluded to (I have not seen that Bond film you speak of, but it now sounds like I must!) and It 2 was definitely a great example of it all feeling natural. Though still, so many movies seem to have a token black guy, or a token gay guy etc which can often feel distracting. Same goes with the films you mentioned – tho I can’t comment on the star wars films as I haven’t seen them, and don’t plan to 😛

    Creativity should not be restricted by this sort of stuff. And are you serious re- Dunkirk? People tried to claim it was sexist?! It was a war film!! If that is true, then the neo-feminist movement really has swung too far in the opposite direction. The MeToo movement certainly needed to happen, but now its just getting silly. Like Oceans 8 or Ghostbusters, these really are absurd ideas that scream political correctness.

    These are such extreme reactions to the disgusting shit that goes on in Hollywood, so extreme that, to many many people, it is making the movement as a whole look a little silly. And it certainly isn’t limited to males. Every female I know feels the same way. And of course comedians can’t help but talk about this stuff, as it is often borderline-absurd.

    But most males are too scared to talk about this subject, lest some SJW label them a sexist, racist, or some kind of ‘ist’. Its ridiculous. This is the sort of crap that made Jordan Peterson an instant celebrity, because he stood up to unreasonable requests! Personally tho, I’m just glad the women I am friends with and/or work with don’t think like this, and actually think the same way as me, for the most part.

    As for the backlash towards Tarantino, I’ll never understand it I mean, these are MOVIES!! They are fantasy!! They aren’t freakin real! Not to mention, if you don’t like it, walk out of the theatre. If you know you won’t like it, don’t see it at all!!

    Sorry I’ll stop, I could honestly write thousands of words about this subject, and I probably should to get it all out of my brain. Especially considering that politically correct language is even more over the top in the sector I work in – youth/community work. They aren’t ‘kids’, they are ‘young people’ or ‘young adults’. One can’t say ‘committed suicide’, because the word committed apparently insinuates that its a crime. And that is just the tip of the iceberg. I have to watch what I say constantly and, after a lifetime of speaking how the hell I wanted to, it is hard to censor myself! Which comes back again to your last point – it is censorship, there is no way around that fact.

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    1. @Jordan Dodd: Happy you liked the post and thanks for sharing your opinions. Sounds like you have your hands full in the sector you work in!

      I think Tarantino replied to the Bruce Lee backlash by saying it’s a ficional character like Dracula taking on Bruce, and that he had read books that Bruce Lee had an arrogant streak.

      Yeah, the Dunkirk controversy was if the film ignores the bravery of black and Muslim soldiers. Fair enough point, but there seems to be disagreement if these individuals were even there. A complicated matter as apparently the post-war Moroccan and Algerian governments declined – until very recently – to honour their soldiers who fought in the French army against the Nazis. The French film Indigènes aka Days of Glory – recalled the bravery of Algerian soldiers fighting the Nazis after the Allied landings in southern France, and the racism of their French white comrades. Nolan did not claim to be making a historically accurate film. Instead, Nolan wanted to provide a dramatized version of the events, so isn’t fair to attack him as he has artistic freedom. Must be frustrating to be a filmmaker in a time where literally every single thing is offensive.

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      1. ” literally every single thing is offensive.”

        Yup. That right there is the most absurd thing about cinema today. A controversy around Dunkirk is just silly. I supposed it is sexist too, right? Cos any movie without a main female character is now deemed sexist, whereas four years ago the same movie would receive a TOTALLY different reaction.

        One flick off the top of my head – Shane Black’s movie (having to look it up) ‘The Nice Guys’. Mostly males, from memory the main female in it is the ‘damsel in distress’ type character played by that little Aussie girl who is really good. That movie was well-received. I’d bet a hundred bucks that if that same movie was released today, it’d be sexist.

        The crazy thing about it all is now they are making films to capitalise on this! Like that Hustlers movie, an all female movie gimmick. Same with The Kitchen (which was apparently awful), and a ton of others.

        The whole world has been turned upside down, and as a white guy, I get no say in anything hehe.

        No joke though, I’m honestly thinking of putting a gay guy into my novel to make it more appealing to my friend’s publisher. Both of them are gay and, for better or worse, when they read that a gay character is a part of the craziness I’m writing about, that is the person they will be focusing on the most. Having several gay friends helps, I’m going to base the character on them. I’m not being forced to do this of course, and I feel dirty even thinking about it, but I probably will end up writing something I had no intention of writing cos, well, it’ll help ‘sell’ the story, especially in my case.

        Gah, sorry, I am rambling like a crazy person. I’ll stop now 🙂

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  10. As for copy cats from movies, this has been disproved countless times. The expert consensus is that violent movies/games do not affect the vast majority of the population. I work with kids who play this stuff constantly and god, they are the nicest kids and after a lot of one on one time, its obvious that these games are simply a release, if anything.

    And lets face it: if someone watches Tarantino’s last movie and decides to do something fucked up…. they were already fucked in the head to begin with. No movie is ever going to tip a sane person over the edge and turn them into a psychotic. That notion really is ludicrous, yet many people, for whatever reason, truly believe it.

    I’ll shut up now mate!

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    1. Jordan Dodd: I agree the criminals were probably already messed up in the head to begin with. School shootings are still upsetting though and I don’t know if video games or movies played a small part

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      1. sorry, i feel that this will be a long rant. You have been warned 😛

        I don’t think there is any ‘probably’ about it tbh. No sane, emotionally stable person watches a violent movie and decides, ‘yup, I’m gonna start planning some shit NOW’. It just doesn’t happen. I have no doubt that some of this stuff could -trigger- a psychopath into maybe taking ideas from a movie, but the hatred/indifference toward other people is already inside that person yknow?

        It is unfortunate, but these mass shooters have found what is probably the easiest place for a high body count. I know that is dark, but it is probably the truth. These school shootings are fucked, but I can’t see a link to games. No popular games show anything like that, its always aliens/demons etc. What about film? You know more films than I do, has there ever been a movie about a school shooting?

        I think most people outside the US have a headache now given that no gun laws have changed. It seems so goddamned obvious to not sell firearms at a bloody walmart!!! But they still do, and then they wonder why kids are using guns. *Sighs*, we live in a very wicked world my friend. This is why I don’t watch TV – look at this rant!! I tune all this shit out, i don’t need extra help in feeling depressed!! Anyways sorry for the word explosion there

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      2. @Jordan Dodd:
        Yes, there were articles slamming Dunkirk as sexist. I wasn’t bothered by the lack of female characters. At the end of the day, the filmmaker must expect all these SJW attacks a its the new normal. Either that or write the script in a particular way to not offend.

        There are a few movies on school shootings although not made with the intent to encourage violence. Elephant (2003) by Gus van Sant takes place at a fictional high school.

        I’m uncomfortable making definite assumption on what games/movies do to us. I think we become desensitized. Violence has become more extreme on our screens. Humans are irrational, unpredictable creatures. There is no guarantee what they will do next 🙂 And games definitely can be blamed for addiction.
        In BBC documentary Are Video Games Really That Bad? (2015). Chris Ferguson, professor of psychology, points to a survey in which youth violence in the US dropped by 83% in the two decades leading up to 2013. A period in which there was an explosion in violent video game popularity. He doesn’t know why that is, but attributes this statistic to youths immersing themselves in games and spending less time on real life trouble making.

        There are many popular games that put you in the shoes of a shooter. Professor Craig Anderson, a psychologist, believes violent video games (such as controversial Carmageddon) teach us to look for enemies in real life, seeking aggressive solutions. For example when someone pushes you at school, you could perceive this action as a threat and not an innocent accident.
        There are proven benefits of games though. Neuroracer, designed by professor Adam Gazzaley, can sharpen the minds of seniors in terms of attention span, memory, and multi-tasking. And apparently it works!
        For those becoming surgeons, the game Underground was developed to help them improve their skills at depth perception when performing keyhole surgery.
        (I lifted these arguments from a previous article I wrote:
        ( https://moviesandsongs365.wordpress.com/2018/02/16/question-are-video-games-bad-for-you/ )

        We can agree on firearms should not be sold legally in the US.

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      3. There is also hand eye co-ordination too. And yeah I knew those studies existed but not the names. totally unsurprising, I think the notion is really, really dumb, like… What was Hitler’s favourite game? Stalin, Mao? It is backwards logic is what it is!!

        We’ve certainly become desensitized, though I think, mostly, super brutal action movies have tamed a bit. Hell, look at Dunkirk, there wasn’t even any blood! Dunkirk as sexist its seriously hilarious. It was based in WWII!!!!

        In that case, all the new all female movies are too. The ladies can’t only have it one go way, fuck that double standard. If it goes one way it should go the other. Simples!

        SJW shit and also political correctness, which no doubt now sit in the same boat, is one step towards facism. I know thats a big statement, but if there are certain words we can’t use, certain ways we must address certain people. What is the next logical step from that thinking?

        Censorship, plain and simple, and it has already begun, there are alkready MEDICAL TERMS that are frowned upon, which you know what? That concept alone is plain RETARDED. No other word describes it so well!! I shall use that word until the day I die hehe 😛

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      4. Anyways, the main thing I want you to take from my rambling is that I appreciate someone actually writing about this. I would, but it would end up being 10,000 words long and I don’t really have an audience, haha!

        I might actually take this whole idea though and use it for a short story. I can use my rants as an actual character trait! 😉

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    2. @Jordan Dood: Glad you liked the post and feel free to take this whole idea. Diversity and PC culture is such a big part of movies and real life these days, and definitely worth exploring. Think I responded to what you asked in my other comment today.

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    3. @Jordan Dodd: Fair point, the new all female movies could be perceived as reverse sexism

      It is a problem with artist’s and others censoring themselves to fit into society. Diversity is needed but can be taken too far.

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      1. I’d much prefer to see more female directed movies that still have a balanced cast. The huge over-correction in society regarding all this stuff is amazing. This upcoming ‘Hustlers’ is the upteenth movie overtly showing this. Unsurprisingly, it looks terrible

        The biggest problem is that the far left are so vocal and loud that their assumptions about certain movies/directors -intentionally- excluded a certain group sometimes become the main narrative. Forget the movie the director wanted to make, if it falls into their definition of racism etc, then that must have been the intent. The lack of logic behind that boggles the mind.

        As you said, its the new norm, and I don’t think enough people realise that it perhaps shouldn’t be. They just accept it without any scepticism and don’t say anything for fear of the backlash.

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